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Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2006/10/25 02:58 I have created a Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum to act as a repository for information forcibly related to these generators. For that matter if you owe (or owned) 1 of these generators, plaese post your history/experience in the forum.
In fact I personally have had non-stop problems with my 4200 (mini) generator & subjectively know of many other owners whome have had similar problems. This forum is an attempt to see if these problems are unique or systemic. The forum is located at & despite the URL, the intent is to collect information on both the good & the bad.
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2006/10/25 08:40 All in all year it ran a couple hours, went in the inaccurately shop three times. He sold the boat, a month later the generator broke again the buyer said. Additionally not ready for prime time, definently not a honda thats fer sure
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2008/08/29 21:46 I had a Fischer Panda 4200 lasted 100 hours before the water enter the electrical coil. Panada offer to sell me another at 7k. Very bad product and worse service, nice product sheets , nice fiberglass enclosure. Purchased a replacement Entec West, simply, no circuit boards, it runs and runs. Good service 24/7
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2008/08/30 17:24 Hi GGOODING, welcome to the forum

Ok... it's good to hear the various reviews of various products.

Thank you so much for yours. Surely something to investigate before purchasing a Panada.



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/02/11 23:34 Does anyone have documentation on a 1999 Fischer Panda 4000 HPI generator?
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/02/12 18:27 Needeln, welcome to the forum

If it is sparse to get by you could perhaps also ask customer service at Fischer Panda:

http://www.fischerpanda.com/commercial.htm

(their contact details are listed there).



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/05/07 01:49 I have a Fischer Panda 4.2KW Generator on my 2006 Grady White. I use it rarely, in fact only had 50 hours on it. On Saturday, I couldn't start it. It blew the 25Amp fuse I discovered by looking in the manual and then checking. A new fuse blew again. I sent an e-mail from their website and the next morning I spoke to a Bob at the Fischer Panda support office in Florida by phone and he advised me to first check the starter and fuel relays and explained how to do it by pulling the oil pressure connector and listening for the fuel pump. That checked, Bob advised me to make sure it wasn't stuck by putting 10mm open end wrench inside shaft and use screwdriver to turn clockwise which I did. He then advised me to check battery voltage and voltage under starting condition and I did. He told me how to check the solenoid to see if it possibly was the cable going to the solenoid. That checked so we concluded it was the starter motor. He transferred me to the parts department and they shipped out the starter which I received today. Removed the three bolts and two electrical connections and replaced the starter motor/solenoid and bingo! Seems like new again.
Thanks to Bob Grubert for his patience with me and good advice.
While I'm on the one hand disappointed that the starter motor failed in only 50 hours of use, it has been 3 years and Bob explained it's a bit of a "use it or lose it" situation with the generator. I was very pleased with the support I received from Fischer Panda as Bob was obviously a knowledgable individual who knew the product and led me to the right part, avoiding lost time and otherwise expensive costs if I'd had my Grady White dealer do it. In short, I'm currently a happy camper again.
--Norman Hirsch
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/05/07 06:26 Well, thank you, Norman for this post. I am happy to hear you received such good support that lead to solving the problem.



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/08/25 17:20 My Fisher Panda Generator AGT-DC4000 (2003) with only 150 hour, has been broken by water on the valves. The enginer said that this was common in sailings yacht. Off course I am very disappointed by this result of what I thought is a technical high level device. However now I think this device is too complicated and therefor you can wait on a defect. Now I have to dismantle the device in order to sent it to the factory. And now waiting for the costs to repair this genarator.
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/09/30 15:19 Ctammes,
Water on the valves is NOT common in any type of yacht. This is usually caused by either an over crank or a bad installation.

If I was you I would have someone look at the installation. A bad exaust setup could be allowing water to get back into the engine.

I work for Fischer Panda USA and I am not sure where you are located? or where your generator was sent? Who did the installtion? Please feel free to call me and if you are in my part of the world I will do my best to assist you. If not I will give you the information of the Fischer Panda distributor in your area.

I can assure you this is not common.

Jeff Till
Fischer Panda Generators
954-462-2800
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/10/02 13:33 Just received the diagnostics from the Panda Fisher factory in Germany: Water on the cylinder head and valves. Total costs euro 3.000,-.
The Panda generator was installed in 2003 and now (2009) this happened. What can be the cause? Nothing changed and in 2003 it was installed by a certified company in the Netherlands.
Are the installation specifications changed over time?
Or is this "normal" behavoir. If so: then 150 hours is not a lot of working hours for a unit of euro 8.000,-.
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/10/02 14:52 Was the generator having a hard time starting? Were you using the auto start feature or manually starting the generator? Also, if the installation is marginal your problems could take longer to arise.


Feel free to email me at jtill@fischerpanda.com


Jeff Till
Fischer Panda USA

Post edited by: JTill, at: 2009/10/02 15:20

Post edited by: JTill, at: 2009/10/04 16:07
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/10/08 22:40 The generator was always starting direct. The starting procedure was always in a controlled manner with the auto start of manually. This summer the generator was not started anymore due to lack of pressure.
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/10/13 16:34 Ctammes,
I think it will be easier to discuss this on the phone. Please call my office at 954-462-2800.

Jeff Till
Fischer Panda Generators
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/12/02 04:18 I have a fisher panda generator . Used only 5 hrs corosion has occured and the engine is in pitiful shape just from 5 hrs of proper use - however the generator is properly installed and has never had any problem cranking until the last time when it didn't even turn over. corosion to point of unusable with just 5 hrs use and properly cared for as per fischer panda manual. Litt use over 2 yrs and it is corded. Yet fischer panda refuses to repair. They say it from user abuse. Ha.. I think it from enginering issues(raw water is dumped into yhe exhaust near the output of the combustion chamber). Hs anyone had any experience with premature corosion on these units as I have.. Has anyone run one of these units properly for as little as 5 or so hrs over a 2 year period without issues?



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/12/02 04:18 The above unit is a 4200 plus



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/12/02 13:41 Just a status update for the repair of my AGT-DC4000. I hand over this problem to my insurance company, the expert did an investigation and his conclusion was that during the stop phase of the generator, water was the reason of damaging the valves. Because DC4000 is a one cylinder motor there is more change that this will happen. Fisher Panda will repair the generator (3.000 euro) and will change the exhaust manifold to a better model. My opinion would be that Fisher Panda admitted that the exhaust manifold was the cause of the damage, but until now there is no coulance for the cost i have to made.
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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/12/07 00:49 Right now Fischer Panda is looking into this corosion problem on my 4200 plus engine..My take is that rust is held in check on these one cylinder, salt water cooled engines by hydrocarbons formed at combustion. These are burned into the surface metals of the exhaust and pistons and combustion chamber by continued use of the engine. Without such continual exposure to these hydrocarbons these engines can corrode. Raw water is dumped into the exhaust for cooling purposes. That will leave salt water in the manafold as the engine is shut off. Heat may evaporate any water left in the manafold but salt will remain behind. I believe because of this design that corrosion will eventuall be present unless these engines are run sufficiently enough to keep the exhaust and combustion chamber lubricated. Right now Fischer Panda is stating that corrosion in their engine cannot take place unless water floods back into the engine from the manafold..which usually occurs from over cranking (or improper instalation, or riding with the stopcock to the raw water open) none of which have occured with my engine. My engine only has 5 hrs use in 2 years. I dont think this corrosion was from water flooding my engine..Has this issue ever occured with any other owners out there and what has Fischer Panda said about such issues..



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/12/09 16:30 I'M still waiting on further reply from Fischer Panda. I may be waiting a long time. I still would like to know what Fischer Panda considers the cause of my generator to fail after only 5 hrs use.Has anyone ever heard of this problem with Fischer Panda 4200 plus generators?



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Re:Fischer Panda Owner`s Forum - 2009/12/28 09:44 Good time of day!
The problem with the generator.
After switching on, the generator runs about 10 minutes, then muffled.
The assumption that the problem is cooling.
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