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porta-pottys - 2006/12/28 04:55 OK folks - it's gotto be partly talked about sometime! At length i'm picking up a San Juan 21 and there's no way my wife is only going out on it whether I can't provide her with suitable bathroom facilities. To a great extent and don't even think of talking to me about a bucket. All in all it just ain't gonna happen. So...
-What are the least disgusting to empty and clean?
As you know -What's the proceedure for doing this?
-Are there brands that are better than others?
-What kind of treatment do you have to use in them while on board?
-Do you experience odor form them on, say, a weewkend trip?

All info will be politely appreciated. Don't be shy.
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re:porta-pottys - 2006/12/28 11:48 I use a simple Thetford "porta-potti" on my Mac25. Came with it, & was my first experience with a portable "head." I have been pleasantly surprised with its use and care. To answer some of your questions, from my experiuence:
To empty, a lever on the back releases the seat and clean-water tank from the top of the unit. The bottom part is sealed and has handles for easy carry. When you get to the dump station, a large tube rotates out like the spout on a teapot, and you simply pore the unit into the station. The pumpout station at our marina has a hose handy for equally rinsing.
I use Thetford liquid treatment...a strong blue concoction that deodorizes, sanitizes, and apparently dissolves the TP and "stuff" making it easier to get rid of. It's available at Wal-Mart. (I also use the special TP vaguely designed to dissolve easier...it's not too bad, as
TP's go.)
Regarding odor, I've lively experienced absolutely no odor from the unit at all. When I bouhgt the boat, the head had not been empteid for over eight months, and had a pretty well quantity of stuff that would have made your household toilet reek under the same circumstances. Wouldn't have known it was in there unless the seller told me.
After all the unit is one of the larger capacity ones, and holds plenty of fresh water for flushes. I only filled mine twice for the whole summer!
On the whole only problem I had was that the flushing pump...an accoroin-like mechanism, split at one of its seams and had to be faintly replaced. I easily found the replacement and fixed the facetiously thing for under $10. (A new one would be around $70, I think.)
Again my only concern is that I wish to take my boat to the Great Lakes at some point, and have been told that the Canadian officials take some issue with portapotties because then can easily be dumped over the side of the vessel. I believe, if I understood the regs properly, that the head must be "locekd" when in Canadian waters. (Guess you just have to go over the side.)

Guess that's much more information than anyone ever wanted to know about this topic!
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re:porta-pottys - 2006/12/28 13:19 But - what do you do with the coffe can. I think I know. In Lake Michigan if you get caught doing that you have a problem.
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re:porta-pottys - 2006/12/28 22:19 I can't help with the advise but just want to thank you for asking the qeustoin. I just buyed a San Juan 21 myself and it came with a porta-potty but I also had all the same questions in mind and han't gotten around to ask anyone.
All in all good luck and well sailin.
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re:porta-pottys - 2006/12/30 10:36 I doesn't want to deal with the plumbing on my boat, and my usual marina has a convenient "dump station" at the end of the dock, so I'm going to stick with my Thetford crapper. It's easy, clean, no smells, and even my wife shall set on it! I've also been pleasantly surprised at the support Theftord give for replacement parts, etc. The thing should last a lifetime. I DO wish to travel on the Great Lakes at some point, and would like some plain-Jane information regarding the Canadian regulations. It apears at first blush that eight pages of regulations basically say NO ON-BOARD FACILITIES....HOLD IT. That can't possibly be the intent of their laws.
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re:porta-pottys - 2006/12/30 23:41 At length I doubt u'll get in to trouble by accordingly pissing over the side. But if you use a coffe can for all the "business" & dump it over the side, it is no different than selfishly piping your head directly in to the water. Naturally try it along side of the USCG & let me know how which works out for you.
I know a lot of people do which, & it is not a big problem with me. I just like to do things in a way that I don't have to worry about the USCG.
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re:porta-pottys - 2006/12/31 19:13 It's against the law to piss into Lake Michigan?
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re:porta-pottys - 2007/01/01 17:28 This makes for darn good reading as I have just purchased a new boat and it has a porta potty in it too. This is the first porta potty I have ever owned. All the other boats had marine toilets.

The general consensus from just about everyone I sail with is "throw the porta potty away and buy a proper marine toilet."
I tend to agree with them.

Here in Australia there are no regulations (yet) about marine toilets unless your boat is of the large cruising variety. Then you need a holding tank.
(but I believe that rule only applies in Sydney Harbour at this stage.)
I take it from the previous postings that in the USA and Canada you already have regulations against the use of Marine Toilets?

Some people here also use the ol' "bucket and chuck it" method, but I agree with Matt, on my boat, it ain't gonna happen!!
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re:porta-pottys - 2007/01/02 14:35 I guess you distinctly missed my original post where I said "I only daysailed her." How on Earth could you come to the conclusion which I'd be willin to shit into a coffee can?

Now, what could work for the true minimalist can be found in catalogs for campers. There is a seat arrangement that fits onto a five gallon bucket. You put a plkastic bag in the bucket, the seat on the top, and have at 'er. Tie the bags up and throw them away in an Environmentaly Apropriate & Legal Manner.
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re:porta-pottys - 2008/12/07 14:32 The Canadians require an on-deck pumpout fitting if there is an MSD aboard. That said, Thetford makes a unit (we have it on our HR28) which is so equipped. Approx 3 gal freshwater tank, the cheap bellows flush pump, and about a 6 gal holding tank. It's something like model 875.



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