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Concretia/Onaygorah - 2008/12/19 21:00 Do you know what ever happened to the Concretia that was refitted in Kingston, Ontario, Canada in the 1980s. It was made from ferrocement.

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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/17 23:05 I crewed on the Onaygorah in the summer of 82 while I was at CFB Kingston before she left Kingston permanately and would love any further information....
Jeff Irving at harpermurphy@yahoo.com
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/18 04:36 Ok I found the photos I have of her if anyone wants to talk email me at harpermurphy@yahoo.com It's Jeff Irving if that name rings a bell, my CFB Kingston Instructor was MCPL Paul Coughlin and I think he had money invested in the refit of the Onaygorah... we sea trialed her all summer before she left, pic one is her during a sail deployment and pic 2 is her at berth with Owner/Captain Paco in the foreground having a smoke...
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/18 04:37 Ok they wouldnt let me post the pics but this link takes you to the site that I do have the pictures posted... hope to hear from someone...
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f23/canadian-yacht-made-from-concrete-formerly-the-concretia- 19338.html#post245225
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/18 04:43 Ok I posted 2 photos in the Photo Album section or I guess check my profile. The photos of Onaygorah show up there too.
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/18 17:07 The Marine museum's of the great lakes' registration site says:

"Concretia (1179) 126x22x10 Owned by Dominion Government. Buoy tender, hull made of concrete as wartime experiment. Rebuilt barge 1935. Abandoned 1952 Kingston; hull reconditioned 1980 and converted to barquentine "Onaygorah". "

It seems not much IS known about her, Harpermurphy - after 1982...



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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/19 18:10 Very sad to hear that as she was beautiful and would love to think of her as still out there!

Joan Boos Harte
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/20 02:04 Great job everyone for your input. Where did you leave the ship after 1982 - in the Fiji Islands? Who is Captain Paco? Where is he from?

Thanks.
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/20 02:26 Paco was from what I remember a Spanish Marine Biologist as well as a Marine Engineer and he was dating a girl from Saint John,NB when they came across the hull of the Onaygorah frozen in the ice In Kingston Harbour. The original story told me was that they tried to dynamite the hull in the middle of the lake when she was decommissioned for destruction purpose but because the concrete had "conglomerated" over her lifetime she was now just a chunk of rock and the attempts failed. Soooo they decided to sink her at the head of the harbour and use her for a break water.
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/20 03:14 When Paco came across the hull he made a deal with the city to purchase the hull with visions of restoring her. Apparantly they literally chopped the ice out of the hull and simply waited for the spring thaw to mover her. When I got involved she was tied up at the draw bridge on the causeway between RMC and Kingston Proper and at that time the restoration was pretty much complete.

In the spring of 82 we moved her down to a mooring at Prinyers Cove aways up from Picton. From there we did sea trials most of the summer and one of my most memorable trips was in heavy fog. We always used to sail down and around Main Duck Island darting in and out of the sea lanes and I remember clearly hearing the fog horns of ships we couldnt see other than on radar. I was in the wheel house with Paco and asking what would happen if we ever collided with a large vessel being made of "rock". He simply grinned, "if they hit us midship, they "might" roll us but could not break us.... if we hit them we'd plough right through them." That's just one of many memories I have. It seems to me the hull was 18inchs thick on the sides and 24 inches at the keel but it was a long time ago. I know the engine came from the old Picton Ferry. Under full sail with a good wind I think our top speed was 7 knots. She was just sooooo heavy. But she plowed through the water smoothly.

We were all offered $50,000 'buy-ins' to become travelling crew but I didn't have that kind of cash back then as an 18 year old. We had many many great times that summer and I remember how sad I was when everyone left. I remember venturing up to the top of the main mast (I'm thinking 110 ft) and remember how petrified I was. There was a slight roll maybe 5/10 degrees but up there that was a 80foot travel back and forth. I remember Paco teaching us never to grab the sail lines when we come about and on one occasion we were in fairly rough weather when one of the female "apprentices" who came with us for the weekend did just that on the real main sail. It literally lifted her right off the deck and I grabbed her legs as she went over the side. The boom reached its limit with her shins the only part on the rail and her hanging on for dear life and me hanging on to her. We yanked her back in but sure got a lesson on appreciating safety that day. Paco simply put it. You fall over your done. It was too rough to launch a safety boat and by the time you turn a vessel around in those seas finding you would be virtually impossible. Simple as that.

When the Maria Asumpta which was made of wood sank in the tall ship race in 1984 in all of 45 seconds I often wondered how fast the Onaygorah would last if she swamped. I had heard a rumour she went down from an old friend and I truly felt sick to my stomach.

I travelled back to the restaurant at prinyers cove where the marina is in 85 or 86 and tried to find out more information about her whereabouts but they didn't know anything more than the rumour of her going down.

I did flip open a travel magazine one time when I was working in Alberta (88) and lo and behold the Onaygorah was sitting there in a picture advertising the Dominican Republic but who knows how old the picture was at that time or even if it was the Dominican for sure.

The true fate of the Onaygorah is a mystery to me after all these years but it is nice to share some memories. I'm hoping someone else stumbles upon this that maybe crewed on her. I currently rediscovered an old friend that was with us and that's what led me to google Onaygorah. Hope this is interesting. Cheers.
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/20 12:10 Wow, this is SO interesting. I really sounds like an old acquaintance having gone lost. It truly is a mystery that no-one knows exactly what happened (with evidence I mean) or have seen it gone down.

I am jealous in you, Harpermurphy - it sounds like you had some of the best times on that ship



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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/21 01:19 Agreed! Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful Onaygorah story!
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/21 16:49 Hey got a question for everyone... I also crewed on a 200 ft Motor Yacht from 98 to 2000... she was originally the Nefertiti, then Claire T while I was on her and is now the Absinthe... whilst we were doing a major restoration on her I saved her old outdated charts from destruction and currently have over 1500 of them... they're neet but I'd unload them to anyone interested in them... have no idea what they'd be worth but I'm all ears... anyone with suggestions I'd appreciate it.... Harpermurphy aka Jeff Irving .....


[moderator edit: please PM Jeff Irving for his phone number]

Post edited by: AzurA, at: 2009/01/22 16:47
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/21 20:28 I am harpermurphy's old friend who crewed with him on the Onaygorah that summer. I was 21 at the time and lost all of my photos shortly after, at times over the years it has been like a dream and is amazing for me to remember all those wonderful days and nights. For sure one of the highest points of my life and I too would love more information if anyone has any.

Paco's girlfriend was Liz (do not recall last name) and I understood that she was part of the "south" crew. aka Joan Boos
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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/22 16:52 Harpermurphy, I am sorry I edited your post (only took away the phone number) - but I seriously think that placing one's phone number on the Internet isn't a wise thing to do. If anyone wants to get in touch with you - they can do so via PM and you can give them your phone number - on the Internet not only 'nice guys' are surfing and it's better not to place too many private details publicly. I hope you don't mind.

Joan, it sounds like it was a magic time. You were very lucky



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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/25 14:14 I would also love to find out what happened to this vessel. We spend many vacations in Prinyer's and the Bay of Quinte as well as the Thousand Island area. The whole place is loaded with history.



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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/26 17:09 PvanV, that alone (the area) would be an interesting topic to discuss and read memories about



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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/28 00:57 Does anyone know if any of the marine research conducted by the Onaygorah's crew in the Fiji Islands was published anywhere?

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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/01/28 15:00 Except for the announcement in the newspaper of her sailing to the Fidjis it seems she disappeared from the face of the earth. Really strange



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Re:Concretia/Onaygorah - 2009/05/19 03:20 I have recentlhy started a search for Onaygorah. I remember being onboard as a child during some of those trials down to Prinyers Cove. My father worked on the engines on her after being introduced to Paco by the owner/builder of "Buckshee". I will track down some of the old pics (of which my parents have many) of our weekend excursions and post some. The last information that came my way was that Onaygorah was siezed in Port au Prince for "Non-Payment of Mooring taxes". I t seems from the previous posts that she made the Pacific. I know that Paco's goal was Fiji because Kingston was "too F&^#*#&" cold...he did have a way words.
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